John Gibbe, the younger

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Husbandman

Notes:

John Gibbe the Younger of Clyst St. George, husbandman, baptised at Clyst St. George 16 December 1587. Will proved April 1644 in the Archdeaconry Court of Exeter. Will mentions daughters Anstis and Mary Gibbins, and her husband, son Richard. Witness Robert.

John married Joan Trapnell in 1614 in Woodbury, Devon. Joan was born in 1576 in Woodbury, Devon; died in 1640 in Clyst St George, Devon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Annys or Anstis Turner Gibbe was born in 1616 in Clyst St George, Devon.
2. Richard Gibbe, of Clyst St George was born in 1620 in Clyst St George, Devon; died in 1674 in Clyst St George, Devon; was buried on 23 Jul 1674 in Clyst St George, Devon.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: George Gibb
• Name: George Gybbe
• Birth: Abt 1545, Clyst St George, Devon
• Burial: 20 Aug 1606, Clyst St George, Devon

Notes:

Taxed at Clyst St. George 1581; buried there 25 August 1606. Will dated 24 February 1605-6, proved 29 August 1606 in the Archdeaconry Court of Exeter.

He is the earliest actually proved ancestor of the family. The pedigree from this George and his wives was recorded in the books of the College of Arms in 1858; see p. xvi, 1 of the Additions of 1927 to 'Antony & Dorothea Gibbs' by J.A. Gibbs. George's will, proved by his widow Mary, mentions his sons John the elder, John the younger, Edward, Andrew, and George, daughter Catherine, grandson George, son of John the elder, also his brother-in-law Andrew Loveringe. John Gib a witness, William Gib an overseer of the will.

George married Marie Loveringe on 8 Nov 1583 in Devon. Marie was born in 1564 in Exmouth, Devon; died on 23 Oct 1643; was buried on 23 Oct 1643 in Clyst St George, Devon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sister of Andrew Loveringe of Exmouth, married at Clyst St. George 8 November 1584; buried there 23 October 1643. Will dated 10 August 1640; proved 15 November 1643 in the Principal Registry of the Bishop of Exeter.

Will proved by her son George mentions sons John, Andrew and his wife Alice, grandsons William and George, grand-daughter Maria, and step-grandson Robert.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: Clyst St George, Devon
• Birth: 1520, Devon

Notes:

There are 13 men at the beginning of this Gibbs Family Tree: John Gibbe, Henry Gibbe, Richard Gybbe, Thomas Gybbe, John Gybbe, Rev. William Gybbe, Geroge Gybbe, Walter Gybbe, Andrew Gybbe, George Gibb, Richard Gibbe, Robert Gibbe and Thomas Gibbs who are set down as the first three generations. The connection between these 13 men is conjectural. In the 1903 edition of the 'Gibbs Pedigree' there were only two conjecturally arranged generations but they embraced the same men, except that Richard and John Gibbe were not brought in, though the latter was mentioned under John the buyer of Pytte. The new arrangement follows Appendix XIII of Lord Hunsdon's 'Gibbs of Fenton'. His Chapter III must be read to appreciate the full force of the arguments for relationship between these persons and between them and the Gibbs family of Fenton, but the following short - though incomplete - statement may be useful.

It is not very likely that among these 13 men living in the contiguous parishes of Clyst St. George and Woodbury there would be any of an unrelated family of the same surname, and there is actual evidence of relationship in some cases. Thus, John Gibbe renting Pytte and John Gybbe succeeding him (first as a renter, afterwards as owner) declares them to be relations and with little doubt father and son, while George Gibb, who is known to be father of John of Pytte must also have owned Pytte and have succeeded John as his son as shown in the Chart, or perhaps as his nephew. Again, there is evidence pointing to relationship between Henry of Woodbury, William, the rector and George of Claypitt, and between the last named and John of Pytte.

The name, not having been found in the parishes concerned at a period earlier than that of the first generation suggests that the family had recently come from outside to settle there. This is consistent with the tradition that the family was an offshoot from that of Fenton in Dartington (near Totnes and under 30 miles from Clyst St. George), a tradition till recently mainly only supported by an unofficial Ordinary of Arms of about 1689 in the College of Arms which quoted the Dartington family's arms as belonging to both families, and to the actual use of those arms by members of the Clyst family from at least 1691 onwards. Now, however, that Lord Hunsdon has produced other evidence for the connection, and especially evidence that William, the rector, was some relation of that family (and if he, then all the Clyst family), little doubt remains of the truth of the tradition. The pedigree of Gibbs of Fenton, embodying Lord Hunsdon's surmise that John Gybbe of Pytte was a son of William Gibbs of Fenton who died before October, 1487, is therefore inserted before Chart 1.
In the Lay Subsidy Roll of 15 Henry VIII, quoted on p. 80 of 'Gibbs of Fenton', he appears as 'John Gybbe at Pytte asessed for his goods at 100s tax 2s.6d.' Pytte, the cradle of our Clyst St. George family, is the house, 300 yards north of the church, which remained in the family till 1790, was restored to it in 1839. John probably died before 1543, the year of the next subsidy ('Gibbs of Fenton', p.54).

Taxed 1524, 1543 and 1546; bought Peytt in Clyst St. George 1560, buried at Clyst St. George 24 May 1573.

His birth in 1510 is established in 'Gibbs of Fenton', pp. 54-5.

His purchase of Pytte is recorded as follows in Rev. Dr. G. Oliver's 'Ecclesiastical Antiquities in Devon' (pub. 1839-42), Vol. I, p. 151: 'On 1 May (2 Elizabeth) 1560 John Gybb or Gybbs of St. George's Clyst purchased of Thomas Lord Wentworth for £110 the Fee Simple of all that messuage .... called Peytt of which the said John Gybb was the tenant and occupier'. The agreement for this purchase (abstracted in 'Gibbs of Fenton', pp. 140-1) shows that the property bought was '1 messuage, 1 guarden, 40 acres of land and 2 acres of meadow'. See also entry for Rev. William Gybbe who acted for John in the agreement.

John married Anne Joanes. Anne was born in 1510 in England; died in Jun 1584 in Clyst St George, Devon; was buried on 5 Jun 1584 in Clyst St George, Devon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Name: Joan
• Birth: Abt 1520, England

Notes:

Taxed 1531 at Clyst St. George; buried there 5 June 1584.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Tenant of Pytte in Clyst St. George
• Residence: Pytte, Clyst St George, Devon

Notes:

Taxed 1524, 1543 and 1546.

There are 13 men at the beginning of this Gibbs Family Tree: John Gibbe, Henry Gibbe, Richard Gybbe, Thomas Gybbe, John Gybbe, Rev. William Gybbe, Geroge Gybbe, Walter Gybbe, Andrew Gybbe, George Gibb, Richard Gibbe, Robert Gibbe and Thomas Gibbs who are set down as the first three generations. The connection between these 13 men is conjectural. In the 1903 edition of the 'Gibbs Pedigree' there were only two conjecturally arranged generations but they embraced the same men, except that Richard and John Gibbe were not brought in, though the latter was mentioned under John the buyer of Pytte. The new arrangement follows Appendix XIII of Lord Hunsdon's 'Gibbs of Fenton'. His Chapter III must be read to appreciate the full force of the arguments for relationship between these persons and between them and the Gibbs family of Fenton, but the following short - though incomplete - statement may be useful.

It is not very likely that among these 13 men living in the contiguous parishes of Clyst St. George and Woodbury there would be any of an unrelated family of the same surname, and there is actual evidence of relationship in some cases. Thus, John Gibbe renting Pytte and John Gybbe succeeding him (first as a renter, afterwards as owner) declares them to be relations and with little doubt father and son, while George Gibb, who is known to be father of John of Pytte must also have owned Pytte and have succeeded John as his son as shown in the Chart, or perhaps as his nephew. Again, there is evidence pointing to relationship between Henry of Woodbury, William, the rector and George of Claypitt, and between the last named and John of Pytte.

The name, not having been found in the parishes concerned at a period earlier than that of the first generation suggests that the family had recently come from outside to settle there. This is consistent with the tradition that the family was an offshoot from that of Fenton in Dartington (near Totnes and under 30 miles from Clyst St. George), a tradition till recently mainly only supported by an unofficial Ordinary of Arms of about 1689 in the College of Arms which quoted the Dartington family's arms as belonging to both families, and to the actual use of those arms by members of the Clyst family from at least 1691 onwards. Now, however, that Lord Hunsdon has produced other evidence for the connection, and especially evidence that William, the rector, was some relation of that family (and if he, then all the Clyst family), little doubt remains of the truth of the tradition. The pedigree of Gibbs of Fenton, embodying Lord Hunsdon's surmise that John Gybbe of Pytte was a son of William Gibbs of Fenton who died before October, 1487, is therefore inserted before Chart 1.
In the Lay Subsidy Roll of 15 Henry VIII, quoted on p. 80 of 'Gibbs of Fenton', he appears as 'John Gybbe at Pytte asessed for his goods at 100s tax 2s.6d.' Pytte, the cradle of our Clyst St. George family, is the house, 300 yards north of the church, which remained in the family till 1790, was restored to it in 1839. John probably died before 1543, the year of the next subsidy ('Gibbs of Fenton', p.54).

The tax dates referred to are those of the Lay Subsidies ordered by Henry VIII respectively (see 'Gibbs of Fenton', pp. 54-5). Later Clyst St. George assessments to subsidies were in 3 Edward VI, 13, 23 (1580-1), and 31, Elizabeth; and 21 James I; all, together with the earlier ones, extracted on pp. 76-88 of 'Gibbs of Fenton'. In a case such as No. 4 it cannot be quite certain that the Henry Gibbs taxed in 1524 was the same Henry as he who died and made his will in 1549. In such cases the tax date is inserted in the Chart with a ?.